tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908170626335283336.post5266349719600669801..comments2016-05-09T17:25:01.255+03:00Comments on VaTashar Devora: What's the value of a ketuba? - Part IIDevorahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14579018807634647530noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908170626335283336.post-32374869189143379632013-05-06T23:06:20.050+03:002013-05-06T23:06:20.050+03:00You are right - it would make sense and return the...You are right - it would make sense and return the ketuba to its original purpose. But the ketuba is one-sided (as I pointed out in part I about the ketuba), and a prenup would include commitments in both directions, so that it would really be a new form of contract. Halakhically, there are ways to do that, but the Orthodox establishment looks at the ketuba like it was given at Sinai and changing the text is a sacrilege, old ketuba collections proving otherwise, notwithstanding. If you look at ketubot from centuries ago, you will see all kinds of conditions set in them, though they were conditions set by the woman for the man to commit to (such as he will not take another wife without her agreement). Prenuptial agreements can be included in what is called tena-ei ketuba (conditions for the ketuba), and this agreement could override or supplement what is in the ketuba, but the standard ketuba - other than varying the monetary amount that the husband is obligated in - is kept intact in the Orthodox establishment.Devorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14579018807634647530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4908170626335283336.post-36297727950694134952013-05-06T22:01:23.581+03:002013-05-06T22:01:23.581+03:00Would it not be more straightforward for a religio...Would it not be more straightforward for a religious couple living in Israel to include any prenuptial agreements they wish to make in the ketuba itself? This way the agreements would be legally binding, while preserving the original purpose of the ketuba.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com